{"id":192,"date":"2011-02-10T22:04:42","date_gmt":"2011-02-10T21:04:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/thoughtflow.dk\/?p=192"},"modified":"2018-11-24T08:59:56","modified_gmt":"2018-11-24T07:59:56","slug":"resumes-are-bullshit","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/davidlebech.com\/thoughtflow\/resumes-are-bullshit\/","title":{"rendered":"Resumes are bullshit"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Today, I was asked by a consultancy agency to provide a resume (or Curriculum Vitae or CV) with &#8220;some more meat on it&#8221; than one I had sent earlier which was very basic and with simple bullet points. I have always felt that resumes are bullshit and I have always wanted to blog about it so this was my cue to finally write down my thoughts on the subject. Here are a few reasons why resumes are bullshit:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Resumes tell <em>what<\/em> you worked with but not <em>how<\/em>.<\/li>\n<li>Your former jobtitle as &#8220;Dynamic Creative Supervisor&#8221; sounds like it was created with the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bullshitjob.com\/title\/\">Bullshit Job Title generator<\/a> (which indeed I just did).<\/li>\n<li>A resume does not tell whether or not you can actually solve problems. Like the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.codinghorror.com\/blog\/2007\/02\/why-cant-programmers-program.html\">FizzBuzz problem<\/a>. <span id='easy-footnote-1-192' class='easy-footnote-margin-adjust'><\/span><span class='easy-footnote'><a href='https:\/\/davidlebech.com\/thoughtflow\/resumes-are-bullshit\/#easy-footnote-bottom-1-192' title='I have a first-hand account from a friend who was hiring people and tried out the FizzBuzz problem in his interviews and could confirm what the linked article states.'><sup>1<\/sup><\/a><\/span><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/thedailywtf.com\/Articles\/The_Brillant_Paula_Bean.aspx\">Paula Bean<\/a> was apparently able to get a job based on her resume. That was a bad idea.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Resumes might be good for initial weeding out in applications but unfortunately this will often mean that inexperienced programmers do not stand a chance in the job race and I think that is a shame. I myself am a good example of a person with <a href=\"https:\/\/davidlebech.com\/cv\">a thin CV<\/a> when it comes to IT-related experience which is mainly due to the fact that I have spent most of my time at the university being a teaching assistant instead of having a job at an IT-company. But does this mean that my problem solving skills are worse than a person having worked for twenty years doing the same thing over and over? I think not.<\/p>\n<p>I do not deny that experience is important and Peter Norvig&#8217;s essay <a href=\"http:\/\/norvig.com\/21-days.html\">Teach Yourself Programming in Ten Years<\/a> is a good reminder that programming is a skill that is only acquired with hard work over an extended period of time but putting so much emphasis on a piece of paper is sad. Is there no better general alternative?<\/p>\n<p>So after having dutifully updated my CV, I wrote this comment to the consulting agent (translated from Danish):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nIn a time where one can buy diplomas online, improve on reality in one&#8217;s CV and in many ways get by in life by cheating, I think it is very unlucky that choosing employees is still based on something as untrustworthy as a piece of paper with a Latin title and some dates and job titles. I can find out more about a person&#8217;s personality in a 10-minute conversation than I can reading a personal description and I can learn more about a person&#8217;s competencies by posing a simple IT-related problem and have them solve it than I can by going through every former position the person has had.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And here is his response (translated from Danish):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nI see what you&#8217;re saying about CVs but actually, I do not entirely agree with you.<\/p>\n<p>CVs are extremely important in our sales process because they decide whether we get the opportunity to come in and further discuss a job with the customer (they often have a number of CVs from different consultants to choose from). I get an enormous amount of bad CVs sent to me and my prejudice from seeing the CV is rarely different from when I actually meet the person later.<\/p>\n<p>Remember that CVs are not about improving on reality but presenting the material in a professional manner and with focus on the essentials&#8230;. This is something that is valid for sales in general.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So the jury is up on the question but the title of this blog post remains the same. Meanwhile, I hope I didn&#8217;t scare him away :-)<\/p>\n<p><em>Update: Since writing this article, my views have been challenged from a lot of different people which is a good thing. However, there are plenty of articles to support my point. Here is a few:<\/em><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.forbes.com\/2006\/05\/20\/resume-lies-work_cx_kdt_06work_0523lies.html\">Forbes on resume lies<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/finance.yahoo.com\/career-work\/article\/105272\/Overachievement-Without-Achievement\">Yahoo Finance on resume lies<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.jobbankusa.com\/news\/employment_careers\/job_applicants_lie_resume.html\">Job Bank USA on resume lies<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Today, I was asked by a consultancy agency to provide a resume (or Curriculum Vitae or CV) with &#8220;some more meat on it&#8221; than one I had sent earlier which was very basic and with simple bullet points. 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